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	<title>Comments on: Geo to connect the Corridor to next generation fibre broadband</title>
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		<title>By: Saan Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saan Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This project is very good idea bat i hope is not going to cost the consumer mach higher price as the authors!
Looking forward to see this project is successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This project is very good idea bat i hope is not going to cost the consumer mach higher price as the authors!<br />
Looking forward to see this project is successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Limbrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Limbrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Lindsey, 10:19pm (it’s Mbps not MBps)

Thanks for the feedback, this has now been updated. (We did originally qualify it as &quot;bits&quot; in the text to avoid ambiguity.)

As for more details, I would expect there to be further announcements and reports as the project progresses. Future articles will take the opportunity to address some of the common questions arising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Lindsey, 10:19pm (it’s Mbps not MBps)</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, this has now been updated. (We did originally qualify it as &#8220;bits&#8221; in the text to avoid ambiguity.)</p>
<p>As for more details, I would expect there to be further announcements and reports as the project progresses. Future articles will take the opportunity to address some of the common questions arising.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey Annison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey Annison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently in the USA visiting FTTH projects around the country to bring back information to the Uk about how to get on with the fibre build we so desperately need - both rural and urban.

I visited one project where build is just about to start in a rural town. They are putting in FTTH to 4000 signed up subscribers and passing approx 12000 more during a 120 day period. We should be doing the same to similar timescales in the UK. The expertise is available to do this and has been for some years.

Doing small scale projects might seem a good idea but it is an expensive route to the end game, especially when the hard evidence about the benefits of FTTH are well-documented.  It is time the UK government, RDAs, consultants etc realised we need big build FTTH, not scaled, demo projects. We are already such a long way behind so many other countries with this.

Good on MDDA and Geo but raise the bar a bit, guys!

And please can we have accurate reporting (it&#039;s Mbps not MBps) and more details - what backhaul is in the network? Are the user connections contended or dedicated? What technology is being used in the active and passive infrastructure? etc. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently in the USA visiting FTTH projects around the country to bring back information to the Uk about how to get on with the fibre build we so desperately need &#8211; both rural and urban.</p>
<p>I visited one project where build is just about to start in a rural town. They are putting in FTTH to 4000 signed up subscribers and passing approx 12000 more during a 120 day period. We should be doing the same to similar timescales in the UK. The expertise is available to do this and has been for some years.</p>
<p>Doing small scale projects might seem a good idea but it is an expensive route to the end game, especially when the hard evidence about the benefits of FTTH are well-documented.  It is time the UK government, RDAs, consultants etc realised we need big build FTTH, not scaled, demo projects. We are already such a long way behind so many other countries with this.</p>
<p>Good on MDDA and Geo but raise the bar a bit, guys!</p>
<p>And please can we have accurate reporting (it&#8217;s Mbps not MBps) and more details &#8211; what backhaul is in the network? Are the user connections contended or dedicated? What technology is being used in the active and passive infrastructure? etc. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is FTTP (MDU/MTU) - not FTTH. You&#039;ll still have copper. Simply put, FTTH is like each flat in a tower block getting its own fibre connection. FTTP is like a fibre connection to the basement of the tower, which is then shared. The same for businesses.

I don&#039;t know the details, but I assume that GEO is only doing civils??? The important bit is when the actual network equipment (xPON, GPON to be specific) is dimensioned to provide services. Or... it could be active Ethernet (which I doubt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is FTTP (MDU/MTU) &#8211; not FTTH. You&#8217;ll still have copper. Simply put, FTTH is like each flat in a tower block getting its own fibre connection. FTTP is like a fibre connection to the basement of the tower, which is then shared. The same for businesses.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the details, but I assume that GEO is only doing civils??? The important bit is when the actual network equipment (xPON, GPON to be specific) is dimensioned to provide services. Or&#8230; it could be active Ethernet (which I doubt).</p>
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		<title>By: James Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Hurry up and look at Radcliffe in North Manchester! I&#039;ll happily pay for a fast, reliable service. It&#039;s been costing me good money for years waiting to get faster than a paltry 500-700kbps - my &quot;broadband&quot; is barely quicker than dial up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Hurry up and look at Radcliffe in North Manchester! I&#8217;ll happily pay for a fast, reliable service. It&#8217;s been costing me good money for years waiting to get faster than a paltry 500-700kbps &#8211; my &#8220;broadband&#8221; is barely quicker than dial up!</p>
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		<title>By: cyberdoyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go Geo.
kudos
keep up the good work Manchester and get the fibre to your people. Digitalbritain needs fibre to everyone, not this obsolete copper phone network. Rock on.
chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go Geo.<br />
kudos<br />
keep up the good work Manchester and get the fibre to your people. Digitalbritain needs fibre to everyone, not this obsolete copper phone network. Rock on.<br />
chris</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fabulous news - is there an agreed timeframe for the work to be carried out? When will the other parts of the city be connected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fabulous news &#8211; is there an agreed timeframe for the work to be carried out? When will the other parts of the city be connected?</p>
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